Talk:Timeline

Why did you delete my page? I sourced it from the official Overwatch site, and the reason I was the only contributor was because I JUST CREATED THE PAGE YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!!!


 * First of all, sign your posts. Second of all, there was no source in the page. Third, if there's a timeline on the Overwatch website, I can't see it anywhere. Fourth, the "only contributor" is a standard designation when removing a page, if there was only indeed one contributor.--Hawki (talk) 21:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

One, I'm sorry, I am new to fandom so please cut me some slack, I don;t know how to do all those things. Two, the timeline is in the story tab on the Overwatch 2 section. Third, can you please not delete people's pages without their permission unless there is something genuinely inappropriate on there? Because it is very rude.

Link to the timeline: https://overwatch2.playoverwatch.com/en-us/story


 * There's no timeline there. Certainly not any with absolute dates.--Hawki (talk) 08:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

No, but there are sure enough notes of when everything takes place that if you read through carefully it's fairly easy to tell when the dates are.


 * No, there aren't. Almost every date in the series is relative, rather than absolute. Even a relative timeline is iffy, since there's a lot of contradictory figures.--Hawki (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Timelines are more about telling the sequence of events rather than the dates, especially since the order in which things take place is clear, yet hard to understand. I was just trying to show when in Overwatch's timeline everything is, so if I remake the page please don't delete it again. I noticed you deleted this page several times in the past, so can you please respect other people's posts unless something is actually wrong with it and it's not just that you don't like the writing method of the creator.


 * First of all, you're still not signing your posts. Second of all, even a relative timeline is dubious because very few events have clear relation to one another, and the sequence of events on the website is contradicted by other sources. Third, the previous timeline pages were even shorter than yours, were unsourced, and speculative, so of course they're going to be deleted.


 * As much as I'd love for there to be a timeline, this is Blizzard we're talking about. They were slapdash with the timelines for Warcraft, StarCraft, and Diablo, and when they finally released official timelines, there was no shortage of retcons (and even after that, there's still retcons). Overwatch is in an even worse position than those timelines since there isn't a core narrative, and the sequence of events has been reversed (e.g. the website goes Recall>Are You With Us>Alive, whereas the original sequence was Recall>Alive>Are You With Us, whereas as of London Calling, the sequence now has to be Alive>Recall>Are You With Us). What's more, even if the series uses a floating timeline ("sixty years in the future"), we have an issue because there's no way that the stuff I mentioned above can take place in the same year as Overwatch 2 (among other things) due to the Reflections comic, yet there hasn't been any indication of a time jump.


 * Basically, we shouldn't be doing anything definitive with a timeline when there's so far no definitive timeline at all.--Hawki (talk) 23:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Good point, but at the same time there are enough references (Like when Winston says the Omnic Crisis started 30 years ago in Are you With Us) that you can tell: Overwatch takes place in the 2070s, The Omnic Crisis was in the 2040s, and the dates specified for Retribution and Uprising, along with the sequence of events shown on the website, make it fairly clear when everything takes place. Also, since I can't read the other timeline posts, I sort of had to ask that, because it looks like you are really the only person who cares about this stuff.

Also, if this is Blizzard's current perspective, then I think that it doesn't really contradict itself. Besides, the devs mentioned that Overwatch 2 will take place a year later. This page was unfinished, so it couldn't be definitive until Overwatch 2 comes out. --Tinedrecneps.

There. I started signing my posts. Happy now, even though you clearly already knew it was me?--Tinedrecneps


 * You're still not signing your posts correctly, but that's a minor point. However, to the above:


 * The Omnic Crisis timeline is contradictory. Some sources say 30, some say 25, some 20. It's possible that it's a case of the Crisis starting 30 years ago, and lasting 10 years, but again, speculative.


 * We don't have any absolute dates in the series bar a few examples. The game takes place "sixty years in the future," so that's a constantly shifting frame of reference. When Overwatch was released, that would place it in 2076. From now, it's 2081. My personal inclination is to go with the 2076 date, but it's speculative.


 * I don't know what dates you're talking about in Retribution/Uprising unless you mean "X years ago."


 * If Overwatch 2 takes place a year after Overwatch 1, I haven't seen a source. If there is one, then that's valuable information.

Basically, still don't think we have enough for a timeline.--Hawki (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)