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The user "Scarrken" is removing information from the ultimate ability page and is preventing me from re-adding it back.

Context: Years ago, I noticed a trend that the ultimate costs were all multiples of a number, that number being 62.5. After researching the history of ultimate costs and finding out that the "global ultimate cost" was increased by 25%, I realized what had happened. 62.5 is the "global ultimate cost."

When the global ultimate cost was increased by 12%, I immediately tested everything on the PTR, and it turns out that the "global ultimate cost" has been increased to 70. I also found out that the devs forgot to tune back Call Mech's cost so I tested that too, and found out that it indeed has been increased and increased to 358.4 exactly (5.12 * 70). They eventually tuned back Call Mech's cost.

A while later, I retested D.Va's cost because 320 couldn't possible divide into 70, and found out that the cost has actually been tuned back to 319.2, which without-a-doubt confirms the 70 ultimate cost. I added all that information to the wiki.

Scarrken removed it. And he kept removing it because he doesn't like the numbers. He also removed my little history of ultimate costs. And now he locked the page.

Please help.

Edit: see https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/UserProfile:Scarrken.

Avatar for R0swell

Unfortunately I really don't have anything to do about this. Scarrken is also an admin, I can't just stop him from doing anything. I don't understand the subject but both of you seem to have valid points about it, so I have no comment. If you think he's harassing you then maybe you should take it up with MrPie5 in private. This whole argument seems really childish to me and the fact you need to beg other admins to help with it (after already asking different admins) feels very immature.

Avatar for Lightning Laxus

What valid points does he have? He's removing a lot of content from the page because he thinks they're unnecessary and incorrect but they are correct and they spell the entire history of ultimate costs and how they came to be.

Avatar for R0swell

No comment. Please don't involve me in this.

Avatar for ShinigamiChaser

Hey, saw your message and... You're right. I never thought of it that way. ok Why not? I've been making audio clips of Reaper and Reyes' voicelines via Youtube to Mp3 if you're wanting me to give them to you, i haven't made all of them yet since theres a limit but with time, i can finish the Mp3s of the Voicelines

Avatar for R0swell

Hi. I already have all of Reyes' voicelines, actually, I'm just waiting to see how we should organize them. I'm having a rough time deciding how to go about it. If I organize them under skin specific or event specific, it will still look quite cluttered. If I make a new section, that might violate the organization somehow. I'm going to see if I can ask another admin for advice.

edit: they replied and edited the page to what they thought might work. I like it!

Avatar for ShinigamiChaser

I think its best to change them to Event Specific, considering that even if you're in his Reyes Skin, you still hear Reaper's creepy voice instead of his normal voice

Avatar for R0swell

that's true. I'll see what I can do...

Avatar for ShinigamiChaser

ok, I've mostly been trying to add more audio clips and add more voicelines that are said but not added to the wiki quotes like most of the retribution interactions

Avatar for R0swell

i'm sorry, i'm not understanding?

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Hello there, I'm the manager for Overwatch wiki. I've approved your claim to be a Wiki Guardian, and am happy to welcome you to the team. If you have any questions or need help, feel free to contact me or one of the admins listed on the Community portal.

I'd also like to invite you to the Gampedia Slack, where editors from across the Gamepedia network discuss editing and parrots. To request access, fill out this form: https://www.gamepedia.com/slackinvite and you should receive an email with an invite.

Avatar for TheModster-gpuser

Hey, nice job on the Moira quotes page! I used to do a lot of work on the quotation pages, but lately I haven't had the drive/time to get into it again. It's a lot of work, so I really appreciate your efforts.

Avatar for TheModster-gpuser

You're very welcome! I'm glad you enjoy it! If you ever need any help please let me know. :D

Avatar for R0swell

Can i ask how to rename an audio file if you've already uploaded it? I'm not sure how to do it after it's already an article

Avatar for TheModster-gpuser

Sure! On the file page, hover over the star in the upper right corner and select "Move" from the drop down menu. There you can rename the page and move it to that new name.

Avatar for R0swell

thank you! also, id like to credit my buds who helped me translate her lines. is this possible?

Avatar for TheModster-gpuser

That's great. You could add a section for translation credits at the bottom of the page.

Avatar for @DeletedUser41297864

Hey R0swell. I'm a fellow editor of quotation pages (you might have seen me in some of the edit summaries on Moira's quotation page).

This is in response to one of your recent edit summaries. First off, I think it's excellent that you've got someone to help you with Moira's Irish lines. In some of my past edit summaries I've said "I doubt this is actually in-game" because I was assuming you were kind of guessing where datamined voice lines would be used rather than actually going off what voice lines played in the game.

Regarding the audio files, I don't really know how they work because I remember seeing a lot of broken ones on Moira's page when you first added them, but now all of them work except the "Attack the Objective" one for some reason. Anyways, there's a few Irish voice lines I've encountered in game of which I know what triggers them, but I have no means of writing them down since I don't speak Irish.

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Yes, I have heard these as well, and I can confirm that at least for the Irish ones I guarantee I've heard them in game. To be completely honest, I did guess on a few English ones, so I'm glad people like you can rearrange them. Honestly my situation is that I have over 300 lines, and some of them are clear while others are ambiguous in their placement in game. But as for the Irish ones, I'm only putting in the ones I know for certain are where they are. For example, I have definitely heard her say "Is binn beal ina thost" after an elimination. I understand your concern.

In fact, there's another line I have most definitely heard in game, but me and my translator are having trouble figuring out the last word she says. It's similar to "Táim i do dheisiú" in structure, but the last word is different and we can't identify it. But I've heard it frequently, if only I knew what it meant!

Also, the audio files being broken is not my fault. I've been speaking with the community about fixing them and it's a slow maintenance progress. This has occurred on multiple pages, not just this one. Like how I also worked on D.Va's quotation page, and all the audio links are fine. Just something went wrong on Moira's and it's slowly being fixed. It's spontaneous and quite frustrating, but it's nothing I did, and if anything I really wish I could fix it myself. I indeed have all of Moira's quotes saved in my computer but I've only been able to put down, like, twelve of them. The rest would break immediately, just like how "Attack the Objective" is now.

And as for their spelling... honestly with the small Irish knowledge I have, I can tell you Féile is not spelled with an H haha. I mean with any knowledge of Irish, one would know that an H could drastically change the pronunciation of the line. And maybe the fact that they can't even listen to the line might make them fault in spelling. I wasn't trying to be rude to whoever put down the line that way but I'd rather it not be changed again, to avoid confusion. And same for her ult line, it's just Géill, not Géilleadh or whatever was put there.

But overall I understand your worry for their actual appearance in game, but I assure you I am trying my best to be truthful about their placement. Like I also said, I play Moira a lot, and I write down every time I hear a new voice line. I have a lot of lines saved that I have no idea where to put, but I'd definitely be spamming that Datamined section if I did put them all there.

Thank you for your edits, have a nice day.

Avatar for @DeletedUser41297864

Yeah, the Irish ones are difficult. Regarding the English lines, in the past I moved some of them to the datamined section because I did not remember ever hearing them in-game (for example, I haven't heard Moira say "No need to mess about" during set-up, but I assume it's just a really rare voice line then). I will trust your judgment on this, but remember that not every voice line that exists in the files is actually in the game.

I don't know if this will be of help to you and your translator, but just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbA5PsaSWAA&t&ab_channel=Noone182

The line she says at 3:21 is one I've heard after killing a group of enemies, so presumably it's a killstreak line, and the one at 3:35 is when damage-boosted. Also regarding the damage-boosted lines, I haven't personally heard her say "Performance enhanced" in that scenario. It might be an alternative that was recorded but not implemented into the game proper (unless of course, you have encountered it in-game).

Avatar for R0swell

The one at 3:21 is "Go raibh ma agat" which is definitely her Thank you line, so are you sure you didn't confuse the time stamp? Because the lines like 10 seconds before it are all ambiguous in their placement, so I'd appreciate help with all of those. As for 3:35, I definitely have that one so thank you for telling me where to place it! It says "Giorraíonn beirt bothar" which means Two shorten the road. That makes sense with damage boost. And I have heard Performance enhanced, so that one should be safe.

Avatar for @DeletedUser41297864

It's the voiceline right after "Go raibh ma agat" that I meant ^^; I think it starts with "Tá ag" like "Tá ag teipeadh do neart". As for the collection of lines like 10 seconds before that, I don't think I can be much help with those. I recognize one of them that's not listed on her page (it's the one that starts around 3;14), but I don't know what context she uses it in. The one at 3:11 I've not heard at all in-game, I think :s

Avatar for R0swell

Sorry for not responding sooner. I have heard the one you are referring to (3:21) as a kill streak line, yes, but we are having issues with translating it. The one at 3:14 I added, she uses it while healing. I haven't heard 3:11 yet either and nor can we translate it yet.

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